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Dark Souls would’ve been a better game in early access, says dev behind Dark Souls-like early access game No Rest For The WickedHead of Ori and the Blind Forest studio says there’s “just no way” they could’ve shipped the game without player feedback

Head of Ori and the Blind Forest studio says there’s “just no way” they could’ve shipped the game without player feedback

Dark Souls, one of the most widely acclaimed video games of the last two decades - perhaps all time - and progenitor of one of modern video gaming’s most influential and oft-copied-rarely-bettered genres, theSoulslike, would’ve been a better game had it launched into early access. That’s the suggestion from the head ofOri and the Blind Forestdevelopers Moon Studios in the wake of launching their own early access Soulslike,No Rest For The Wicked.

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Thomas Mahler took to Xitter to extol the benefits of launchingNo Rest For The Wickedinto early access after the Soulslike ARPGarrived last week with a number of performance issues, which arenow being smoothed out via a series of patches.

“We’re not even a week into Early Access and it’s already pretty clear that going with EA is one of the best decisions we could’ve made,” Mahler wrote in alengthy post. “There is just no way we could have ever shipped Wicked 1.0 without being able to see all the data we’re seeing now and getting all the feedback from users. And I mean actual users, not a Focus Testing Group.”

“Shipping games is always incredibly difficult and stressful and most of the time it means making quite drastic compromises, especially if your product is trying to accomplish something new,” the developer wrote. “And if you don’t know that it’s okay to bring in certain features and scope after the fact, you’ll just end up cutting before you hit the market.”

We’re not even a week into Early Access and it’s already pretty clear that going with EA is one of the best decisions we could’ve made 👍❤️I see some people are still irked about why games like Wicked, Hades 2, Larian’s new game, etc. launch into Early Access even if the studio…— thomasmahler (@thomasmahler)April 24, 2024

We’re not even a week into Early Access and it’s already pretty clear that going with EA is one of the best decisions we could’ve made 👍❤️I see some people are still irked about why games like Wicked, Hades 2, Larian’s new game, etc. launch into Early Access even if the studio…

What’s perhaps a little more divisive is Mahler’s specific suggestion that the original Dark Souls - again, a game that literally spawned an entire genre that bears its name (yes, internet pedants, I knowDemon’s Soulstechnically came first, but Dark certainly popularised it) - would’ve “benefited” from going through early access, had the concept existed back in the distant days of 2011.

“Imagine Dark Souls 1 would’ve been in Early Access - Instead of From [Software] rushing to ship a boxed product in a somewhat unfinished state, they probably would’ve been able to look at the second half of that game and still fully form and polish the less polished areas like Lost Izalith, etc.” Mahler said.

Now, it’s long-documented that parts of the first Dark Souls were the product of development time and budget running short - in particular the lava-strewn ruins of Lost Izalith, which are somewhat notorious for having repeated enemies, inconsistent design elements (such as a respawning Titanite Demon, the only such example in the entire game), one of the most frustrating bosses in the Bed of Chaos and notably barren environments. As such, they’re often assumed to beeveryone’s least favourite part of the gameand the objectively ‘worst’ area - though they may have a close competitor in the dark, poisonous Blighttown, especially in its original framerate-tanking form.

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Taking a swing at an axe-wielding Risen warrior in No Rest for the Wicked’s opening ship battle.

There’s certainly a good point to be made that Lost Izalith might’ve been even more memorable with more time and money to invest in the game, but would the process of early access have ended up sacrificing in other areas to achieve that? Would the absence of its notable rough patches have conversely made the level less memorable than its current state?

The takeaway as always, then, seems to be that early access works for some developers - it certainly seems to be working for Moon Studios, as it did for Larian and Supergiant - but probably isn’t a one-stop-shop for anyone trying to make a game, as Larian’s director of publishing Michael Douserecently suggested.

Would it have worked for Dark Souls? We can only guess - and see if From Software ever take the leap onto the platform for something likeElden Ring2.

Whether you agree or disagree with Mahler’s points on its hypothetical benefits for Dark Souls specifically, it’s hard to argue against his overall assessment that early access has enabled many more creators to work on games in a way that’s far more sustainable and is at least one way to tweak things to players’ desires in a way that traditional DLC and updates don’t always allow: “I’m confident that we will see games being created through Early Access programs that would’ve never been made without EA.”